Community:The problem with discussion list threads - Revision history

MichaelUschold at 22:25, 14 April 2010

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MichaelUschold at 05:18, 4 March 2010

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-There is an enormous amount of valuable content about ontology modeling issues sitting in discussion list archives. However:
+===The Problem===
-# the same issues get discussed over and over on many different lists;
+There is an enormous ton of content about ontology modeling issues in discussion list archives, ''but'':
-# the information you want is hard to find;
-# if you do find a relevant thread,
-## the content is very raw and hard to digest;
-## there are usually no summaries, and if there are, they are not easy to find;
-# there is no agreed place to go to find out about modeling issues;
-# it is often easier just to ask the question again, and the cycle continues.
-We have created the [[Community:Main| ontology modeling issues]] section in the ODP Wiki To address these problems.  It is a place:
+# ''there is no agreed place to go to find out about modeling issues'', so it is hard to find what you need;
-* to put final results of lively discussions of ontology modeling issues,
+# the same issues get discussed over and over on different lists;
-* for the ideas to be further refined by the community.
+# one discussion thread may interleave two or more distinct issues that are never teased out;
-* to find and help resolve ontology modeling issues.
+# if you do find a relevant thread;
-In it you will find a number of modeling issues that have already been entered.
+===A Solution===
-We envision the following steps in the evolution of a modeling issue:
+# Lively discussion happens on some mailing list.
-# Lively discussion happens on some mailing list.
+# Post a summary to the list of the key points raised, including the pros and cons of proposed solutions.
-# Someone posts a summary to the list of the key points raised, ideally including the pros and cons of proposed solutions.
+# Post a modeling issue on the ODP Wiki (based on that summary).
-# Post a modeling issue on the ODP Wiki (based on that summary).
+# Post a note to any relevant discussion lists inviting them to contribute to the Wiki.
-# Post a note to any relevant discussion lists inviting them to contribute to the Wiki.
+# Discuss and refine the issue further in the ODP Wiki
-# Discuss and refine the issue further in the ODP Wiki
+# Post major updates back to relevant discussion lists.
 # Post major updates to relevant discussion lists.
-An alternative is to originate the discussion on the ODP Wiki, in which case the process above starts at step 3.
+OR, start with step 3, and post the modeling issue directly on the ODP Wiki.

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 * to put final results of lively discussions of ontology modeling issues,
 * for the ideas to be further refined by the community.
-* to go to find and contribute to resolving ontology modeling issues
+* to find and help resolve ontology modeling issues.
 In it you will find a number of modeling issues that have already been entered.

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 * to put final results of lively discussions of ontology modeling issues,
 * for the ideas to be further refined by the community.
-* to go to find and contribute to ontology modeling issues
+* to go to find and contribute to resolving ontology modeling issues
 In it you will find a number of modeling issues that have already been entered.

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-There is an enormous amount of valuable content about ontology model issues sitting in discussion list archives. However:
+There is an enormous amount of valuable content about ontology modeling issues sitting in discussion list archives. However:
 # the same issues get discussed over and over on many different lists;
 # the information you want is hard to find;

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 We have created the [[Community:Main| ontology modeling issues]] section in the ODP Wiki To address these problems.  It is a place:
 * to put final results of lively discussions of ontology modeling issues,
 * for the ideas to be further refined by the community.
 In it you will find a number of modeling issues that have already been entered.

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 # Lively discussion happens on some mailing list.
 # Someone posts a summary to the list of the key points raised, ideally including the pros and cons of proposed solutions.
-# That summary is also posted to the ODP Wiki as a modeling issue, and cc'd to other relevant lists
+# Post a modeling issue on the ODP Wiki based on that summary.
-# The issue is further discussed and refined in the ODP Wiki.
+# Send an invitation to relevant lists notifying them of the summary and inviting them to contribute.
-# Post major updates to relevant modeling lists.
+# Discuss and refine the issue further in the ODP Wiki
-An alternative is:
+An alternative is to originate the dicussion on the ODP Wiki:
 # Post a modeling issue directly on the ODP Wiki
 # Post a note to any relevant discussion lists inviting them to contribute to the wiki
-# Post major updates to any relevant discussion lists
+# Discuss and refine the issue in the ODP Wiki